5G at Le Havre port – from trials to roll-out

On his visit to Le Havre, Cédric O, France’s Secretary of State with responsibility for the Digital Transition and Communications, set out to take stock of current development projects based around new technologies. After being designated two years ago as an “Innovation Area” Le Havre, having earned a reputation as ground-breaker, is now on the point of moving from trials to commercial roll-out.

Back in 2018, as part of the Smart Port City programme, the “5G Lab” collective centred on the port and the urban community was formed with three industrial corporations – Nokia, Siemens and Électricité de France (EDF). The objective of the five partners was to identify application scenarios that could, after some experimentation, be developed across the Seine Axis ports.

In the presence of Edouard Philippe, Mayor of Le Havre and Chair of the Le Havre/Seine Urban Federation, Cédric O took this opportunity to discuss the issues with the partners and to analyse the progress made on the identified application scenarios. The core issue is of major importance: how in a competitive context to add to the attractiveness not only of the port complex but also the entire Seine Axis.

Among the first application scenarios that have been identified there is the optimisation of upkeep operations for the port’s navigational areas: the implementation of 5G would notably provide improvements and greater safety for the daily dredging campaigns in the channels and docks.

A major step forward has also been made in the city and port 5G trials. This is so because Stéphane Richard, CEO of Orange, the French telecoms operator, has announced the roll-out of 5G, which will boost the projects currently in their test phase. This announcement is encouraging for the port and its partners in their ground-breaking drive for digitisation of the local region.

“The Smart Port City programme is a shared ambitious goal to make Le Havre a port complex that stands as a benchmark for the ability to innovate. This remarkable partnership-based effort around 5G will give the port of Le Havre a core technology conducive to the invention of novel applications able to be duplicated subsequently elsewhere in the world,” explains Edouard Philippe, Mayor of Le Havre and Chair of the Le Havre/Seine Urban Federation.

In the view of Baptiste Maurand, CEO of HAROPA – Port of Le Havre, “5G offers interesting possibilities for making the port more competitive. For example, it can help us improve communications between sea and land. Just having a network-connected port navigational area will enable us to optimise certain operations that are essential to safe navigation in the port. It will also allow us to gather multiple types of data (weather, seabed conditions, and so on) for greater precision and efficiency. The primary beneficiaries will be our customers, among them the 6,000 ships that call at our port every year.”

Matthieu Bourguignon, Vice-President Europe, Nokia Enterprise adds: “Nokia is very proud to partner Le Havre city and port in their innovative drive for digitisation, notably by contributing to the 5G Lab. We will be using it to trial a range of industrial applications to demonstrate what dedicated 5G coverage can provide in a port environment. The segmentation of the network – ‘network slicing’ – made possible by 5G will allow us to allocate the data rates, latency and levels of security required for each user, thereby helping the port of Le Havre enhance its attractiveness.”

Antoine Garibal, Director of Strategy at Siemens France, expresses the view that “in the 5G Lab collective, working in close partnership with HAROPA – Port of Le Havre, Siemens provides fine-grained expertise in industrial processes and digital transformation along with tried and tested methods for identifying new applications of 5G for the port of Le Havre and its industrial complex as a whole. The trials conducted with our partners have led to the identification of new applications, demonstrating that 5G’s reliability and flexibility make it a particularly suitable data communication solution for Future Industry and the Seine Axis ports.

“This ambitious, rigorous approach based on co-construction is the right solution for the requirements of industrial companies, providing greater resilience, competitiveness and sustainability.”

Alban Verbecke, Director of Normandy Regional Action at Électricité de France explains: “The 5G Lab in Le Havre will allow us to field-test 5G’s technical capacity to manage electricity grids. 5G’s low latency is a real breakthrough in this area, especially for micro-grids.

“In addition, the analysis of application scenarios for the port/industry complex is also of interest for EDF as an industrial company. The initial applications for information system security, Industry 4.0, drones and industrial safety/security are of interest to the Group as a potential customer for these forms of technological progress.”

DP World invests £40m in Southampton

DP World has announced that Southampton, Britain’s second largest container terminal, will benefit from a major programme of investment in 2021 designed to take it up to the next level as a premier international freight and logistics hub.

DP World Southampton is part of DP World, a leading global provider of smart logistics, and one of its two UK deep-water ports with freight rail terminals which were awarded Freeport status by the Government in March 2021. The new infrastructure investment totalling £40m is designed to provide customers with speed, security, reliability and flexibility and will include:

  1. The dredging and widening of the berths to ensure that DP World Southampton will be able to continue to accommodate the world’s biggest ships. This project, which was conducted in partnership with Associated British Ports, was completed before Easter and will improve flexibility for customers with immediate effect.
  2. A £10m investment in a new class of 11 hybrid straddle carriers. These vehicles, which lift containers moved by the quay cranes and then service onward forms of transport via road and rail, consume up to 40% less fuel than diesel-electric-powered machines and will be among the most sustainable in the world.
  3. A planned £3m investment in the redevelopment of the yard for the storage and delivery of customers’ empty containers. Once completed this will increase capacity by 25% and create more flexibility for port users.
  4. A new Border Control Post (BCP), including UK Border Force and port health inspection facilities, to enable multiple government agencies to expedite checks on cargo entering the country.
  5. A £1.5m extension of a quay crane rail by 120 metres to ensure that the world’s biggest cranes can service all berths at the terminal. Additionally, other quay cranes will be relocated or decommissioned in order to maximise utilisation, speed up quayside loading and unloading, and save customers’ time.

Ernst Schulze, Chief Executive of DP World in the UK, said: “DP World Southampton is the most productive port in Britain, turns container trucks around faster than any of its competitors, and at 30% also has the highest proportion of its containers moved by rail.

“At DP World, we think ahead to create smarter trade solutions and this £40m programme of investment will ensure that our Southampton terminal continues to grow as a major freight and logistics hub. Our aim is to partner in our customers’ business success and we are already seeing a surge of interest from companies which want to take advantage of the customs zone and tax benefits resulting from Southampton and London Gateway becoming Freeports.”

Sicilian terminal expands mobile harbour crane fleet

The port terminal operator SERMI in Pozzallo (Sicily), has ordered an eco-efficient Konecranes Gottwald Model 6 Mobile Harbour Crane to improve its overall capacity in container, general cargo and bulk handling. The order highlights Konecranes’ commitment to the growth and transformation of customers and industries so they run more efficiently, sustainably and safely.

SERMI has decided to enlarge its fleet of mobile harbour cranes at its facility in the Port of Pozzallo, a major Mediterranean harbour handling containers shipped worldwide. SERMI ordered a Konecranes Gottwald Model 6 crane, which will increase the handling performance and reduce the operator’s overall carbon footprint thanks to the crane’s diesel-electric drive, raising the terminal to a new level of efficiency. It will be delivered in May 2021.

“For many years, we’ve provided the best industry services for our clients, who include some major local shipping lines. Our new Konecranes Gottwald mobile harbour crane will help us to continue meeting increasing customer demand for the traffic of containers worldwide at the highest level of quality, and in a more sustainable way,” said Vincenzo Venniro, owner and CEO of SERMI.

“The advanced electric drive at the heart of our cranes and the high performance that results perfectly fit the productivity and sustainability needs of SERMI. This agreement builds on years of good cooperation and we look forward to continuing on this path into the future,” says Gino Gherri, Regional Sales Manager for Konecranes Port Solutions.

The new crane is a Konecranes Gottwald Model 6 Mobile Harbour Crane in the G HMK 6507 variant. With a maximum radius of 51 m, it can service container vessels up to post-Panamax class. A full range of smart crane features combined with a maximum lifting capacity of 125t makes it ideal for general cargo and bulk handling as well. Remote monitoring will allow SERMI to follow the performance of its new purchase and plan maintenance more easily. The crane will have built-in readiness for an external power supply, so conversion to electric operation will be easy when resources allow.

Suez Canal Blocked by Grounded Container Ship

An Ultra Large Container Ship, MS Ever Given, grounded in the Suez Canal and brought traffic on the central shipping route between Europe and Asia more or less to a standstill. A second incident – a bulker and Russian military tanker collide in Suez Canal – was reported in the Egyptian waterway on Tuesday, following Ever Given boxship grounding.

As one of the leading shipping insurers, Allianz Global Corporate & Specialty constantly monitors and analyses risk scenarios in the shipping industry and annually publishes the Safety & Shipping Study. The company provides research support as well as facts and figures on the current grounding incident:

Shipping risk situation in the Suez Canal
• About 10% of global trade passes through the Suez Canal, which connects the Mediterranean to the Red Sea and provides the shortest sea link between Asia and Europe. Ships face costly and lengthy deviations if canal is not opened soon. Ships save 9,000km or 10 days by using the Suez Canal.
• Ship trackers and brokers said there were more than 100 ships waiting to transit the canal. The traffic jam comes at a particularly bad time for global supply lines. Car and computer makers are straining from a global chip shortage, exacerbated by a fire in a big chip making factory in Japan last week. Car makers have closed plants after a Texas cold snap earlier last months hits plastics production, and Califorinia ports have been hit by backlogs and delays.
• Nearly 19,000 ships passed through the canal in 2020, according to the Suez Canal Authority – an average of 51.5 ships per day. The Suez Canal has an excellent safety record overall with shipping incidents extremely rare – There have been 75 reported shipping incidents in total in the canal over the past decade according to the Allianz Global Corporate & Specialty Safety & Shipping Review 2020. More than a third involved container ships (28).
• Between 2013 and 2016 there was an average of 12 shipping incidents a year but the numbers have declined since then. The 10 year average is 8 incidents a year.
• However, groundings (such as the Ever Green incident) are the most common cause of shipping incidents in the canal – 25 in the past 10 years or 1 in 3 of all shipping incidents in the canal. Together, grounding, collision and contact incidents account for half of all shipping incidents in the Suez Canal over the past 10 years (38 in total).
• Machinery breakdown is the other major cause of shipping incidents in the Suez Canal accounting for 21 incidents over 10 years
• There has been only one total loss of a vessel reported in the Suez Canal over the past decade – back in 2010. The total loss in the Suez Canal was a cargo ship called Maryam which sank after loading some bitumen.
General shipping statistics on mega-ships and grounding:
• Container ship graphic attached above. Another important stat – container-carrying capacity of ships has increased by around 1,500% since over the past 50 years and has almost doubled over the past decade
• The other graphic attached looks at a potential loss scenario and the costs involved in event of a major casualty involving a container ship (although the Suez situation is not comparable)
• There have been over 200 reported grounding incidents involving container ships around the world over the past decade, accounting for around 1 in 10 of all incidents involving container ships.
• The insured values of these vessels (hull only) depends on many factors like age but ranks between 70 mn USD for an older vessel (say 2012) to 150 mn USD for a new one.
• Other main risks associated with megaships include major risks are fire-fighting capability, safe storage of cargo and cargo misdeclaration; salvage challenges given their size.

The 6 Biggest Challenges Faced by Shippers

Challenges faced by shippers in today’s rapidly changing supply chain landscape are increasingly complex, with many different options for shippers to choose from. To make problems worse, many organizations are still using multiple systems for shipping. This is highly inefficient. On the contrary, having a single unified system for your shipping needs helps save time and money. Here are the six biggest challenges that shippers face in the shipping industry .Pavan Telluru considers some of the challenges faced by shippers.

Having too many Manual Processes

Many companies have a warehouse with multiple shipping workstations and no integration with an ERP system. This outdated setup results in each shipper having to manually enter data into a carrier’s shipping systems. Having to switch between multiple systems to print shipping labels, documents, and carry out other tasks is inefficient and places a lot of burden on shippers. With Multi-Carrier Shipping Software, shippers can use a single screen to process all of their domestic and international shipments. The same screen also provides them with the ability to carry out other standard shipping functions and review analytics. Managing shipping from a single interface doubles shipper productivity.

Not Having Access to the Right Shipping Options

Packages can be shipped from point A to point B in a number of different ways. Many shippers are simply unaware of the many different shipping options that are available to them. From small packages to full truckloads, shippers need to have access to multiple options and be able to choose the most efficient one. A multi-carrier shipping software lets you see all the different possible shipping options for any given shipment. You can browse the options to choose the best carrier, speed, etc. or the software can automatically choose the best option for you.

Getting the Best Price

Finding the best shipping rates and transit times can be very time consuming as it requires shippers having to navigate through multiple sites in order to compare shipping options. Sometimes, shippers may select an expensive express service instead of a cheaper ground service even though shipping via the ground service would be enough to meet their customer requirements. This happens when the right tools aren’t in place for rate shopping. Using a Multi-Carrier shipping software will help ensure that you are getting the best rates on every shipment.

Having Issues with Packaging Dimensions

The changes to dimensional weight shipping that were implemented in 2015 has made packaging correctly more important than ever before. Shippers must be more conscious about the size of their packages. Organizations are increasingly making use of technology to automate the packaging selection process.

Adhering to Constantly Changing Regulations

It’s difficult for shippers to keep up with constantly changing regulations. In many instances, one misstep can result in surcharges, delivery delays or customs holds for international shipments. Incorrect shipping labels and inaccurate documentation impacts on-time deliveries, which in turn increases shipping costs and reduces customer satisfaction. Having the right multi-carrier shipping software will ensure that shippers are made aware of the latest regulations and do not incur penalties.

Having Reliable and Accessible Shipment Tracking

Shippers often struggle to track shipments due to the fact that they need to visit multiple carrier portals in order to do so. Multi-Carrier Shipping Software empowers shippers by giving them the tools to track shipments in real time all from one screen. This eliminates the time-consuming process of logging in to multiple carrier portals to gain visibility on shipments.

Shippers face many challenges that impact the cost, complexity, and overall customer experience of their shipping process. Having the right software for shipping needs helps organizations overcome these challenges with ease. Many organizations are implementing Multi-Carrier shipping solutions like ShipConsole to automate their entire shipping process. This results in lower costs and increased efficiency.

New Gateways for Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania

Two high-performance ports are scoring this year as new gateways for on the island of Rügen: The industrial port “Mukran Port” as well as the “City-Port Sassnitz”.

Mukran Port is virtually predestined as an industrial port with the fastest catamaran connection for travel between Sweden and Germany, especially for day trips to Ystad, southern Sweden. After a longer time out due to Corona, regular excursions to the Danish island of Bornholm will now take place again starting April.

The city harbor of Sassnitz, on the other hand, is an optimal port within in the city center. A Museum as well as snack- and fish- trawlers have their constant position here. The marina offers its various services for sports and leisure ships as well as for large and traditional sailing vessels. In the surrounding commercial areas, regional products and specialties are offered for sale. Additionally, several artists have set up their studios and salesrooms in the Sassnitz town harbor. The diverse offer consisting of art, culture, gastronomy, trade and commerce is complemented by special events and promotions. From the city port of Sassnitz, further attractions as well as the spectacular natural landscape of Ruegen can be reached via short distances. “Both ports are indispensable for maritime tourism in our region” says Yana Grundke, Cruise Coordinator Mukran Port/ City-Port Sassnitz GmbH.

It´s no surprise that the smaller Baltic ports attract the attention of the public; after all, individual market shipping companies now account for around 25 percent of calls in the Baltic region.

The aim of the association is to improve the tourist potential of Rügen and to make the neighboring tourist regions more accessible to ferry and cruise passengers and therefore to establish a new branch of the tourism industry. The association closely cooperates with existing institutions, which are also engaged in tourism promotion. The association is open for membership to all those who are economically or personally interested in the development of the Cruise & Ferry Destination Rügen as a tourist location.

10000 Units Transported on Dunkerque-Rosslare Line

The Danish company DFDS Seaways has just announced the introduction of a fourth ship from 1 April on the ferry line between Dunkerque and Rosslare. The announcement confirms the success of the link, launched with three vessels on 2 January.

On 1 April next, the “Ark Dania”, a RoRo type vessel with a capacity of 188 freight units, will complete the fleet on the Dunkerque-Rosslare route, alongside the “Visby”, “Kerry” and “Drotten”.
The route provides exporters and transport companies with a direct, document-free journey for lorries between the Republic of Ireland and the other countries of the European Union, implying lower costs, less waiting time as well as the possibility of avoiding the customs procedures which now apply to transport via the British ‘landbridge’.

Aidan Coffey, Route Director for DFDS Seaways Ireland, is delighted with the addition of this fourth vessel to the fleet: “This ferry will be the flagship for our route. She is highly manoeuvrable, and is capable of transporting a wide range of cargo, mainly consisting of unaccompanied trailers and 12 trucks accompanied by drivers. The addition to our service will free up capacity on our three other vessels for more trucks accompanied by a driver. We are facing strong demand from all sectors of industry seeking to use the direct route to northern central Europe”.

Daniel Deschodt, Interim Chairman of the Executive Board, said: “European carriers and shippers are responding very favourably to this new post-Brexit offering tailored to meet their expectations. Indeed, since the first port call in Dunkerque on 2 January, the service totalled no less than 10,000 units at the beginning of March. With eight weekly round trips to and from Ireland, in the space of only four months the Port of Dunkerque has become the European mainland port with the highest number of round trips for ro-ro services to Ireland. The new traffic is also generating increased business and genuine added value for logistics warehouses located in the vicinity of the port. With this fourth ship, Dunkerque is more than ever the port for the British Isles!”

London Gateway new Port of call for 2 Shipping Services

DP WORLD today announces that London Gateway, Britain’s fastest growing container terminal, is now the UK port of call for two new major international shipping services, connecting the economies of Western Europe with the Eastern Mediterranean, North Africa and Russia.

DP World – the leading provider of smart logistics solutions – has created an integrated business in the UK comprising two deep water ports with freight rail terminals at London Gateway and Southampton, meaning greater flexibility and choice for shipping lines and cargo owners.

London Gateway is now the UK port of call for Sealand-Maersk’s North Sea service, which connects the key economies of Northern Europe with the Eastern Mediterranean. Previously calling at the Suffolk coast, this major international shipping service has a 42-day rotation stretching from Western Europe to Cyprus, Egypt and Israel. After London Gateway, the service calls at Rotterdam, Bremerhaven, Wilhelmshaven, Hamburg, Antwerp, Limassol, Ashdod, Alexandria, Haifa, Mersin, and finally at Port Said East before returning to London Gateway.

Also, London Gateway last month became the UK port of call for Unifeeder’s new St Petersburg service. Increasing its UK service in response to a growing demand for multimodal transportation, Unifeeder has introduced an additional loop connecting the Benelux and Russian markets with Britain. London Gateway is the preferred import hub because of its proximity to the capital’s consumer market and is becoming a vital gateway for Shortsea and Feeder shipments to and from the UK. The new service has fixed day weekly connections on a rotation from London to Antwerp, St Petersburg, Bremerhaven and then back to London, offering connectivity with the entire Unifeeder network with multiple transhipment options.

Ernst Schulze, CEO of DP World in the UK, said: “We are delighted to welcome two new services to the most technologically advanced and fastest growing container port in the UK. We have the capacity to continue to prioritise delivering first class services for all existing customers at the same time as handling new sailings which expand customer choice.”

“DP World in the UK is committed to being at the heart of Britain’s trading future, providing the right trading infrastructure and smart logistical solutions for our customers. We believe in the UK market and have the ambition and the resources to boost growth, support businesses, create jobs and improve living standards.”

Return Container Booking App Launched

Cargo stream – the first of its kind container booking app in Europe – has officially gone live. Built by Cargo stream, an international company developing solutions to manage the whole logistics chain in one place and making empty container logistics in Europe more efficient, the app is set to become a go-to tool for cargo forwarders and carriers. It enables users to book their shipping container faster and easier across the globe.

“This functionality was highly requested by various shipping lines. More and more companies are moving their operations online, accessing important data via computer or smartphone screens, and we see this trend as an extraordinary opportunity for the logistics sector. Technology enables immediacy, ubiquity, in our case, while booking containers or managing logistics processes. Our decision to launch an app was inspired by the number of functionalities requests we received from our partnering shipping lines. We are creating value for our customers by launching the first app of its kind in Europe,” said Anthony Poullain, member of the board at Cargo stream.

Currently, available solutions in the market are limited to desktop applications, enabling only several actions, which forces companies to stick to managing most of the procedures by phone calls or emails. “We want to be at the forefront of technological implementation in an otherwise stagnant industry. It is difficult to develop a solution from the shipping line side because other shipping lines will not join the internal system. Cargo stream is an independent, reliable and objective solution provider that connects different parties in the whole logistic chain,” said Stéphane Gouvart, an associate of the CMA CGM Group.

The Cargo stream app allows users to make container bookings and offers or announce that they are searching for a specific container. It facilitates a full exchange between cargo senders, forwarders and carriers and provides a single portal to manage the entire container communication with shipping lines in real-time. Additionally, users can use the container location tool that helps find empty containers near their location. From there, users quickly book the containers and begin the cargo journey.

The app also provides value for customers in the following ways: request changes in drop-off and pick-up locations, check empty container status and whether it can be re-used for export customers, as well as manage cross-border open equipment opportunities in real-time. With these features, app users can optimise trucks’ planning, avoid congested areas and disputes with other carriers, and centralise all lines on one platform.

“Using such technology, logistics professionals can save time and money by reducing the number of empty runs. When facing a global containers’ shortage, speed and concrete communication are key to be first in line and secure the containers. We have started booking containers through Cargo stream with MSC (Mediterranean Shipping Company),” said Igoris Uba, CEO of Limarko Maritime Agency.

Previously, both parties lacked the information they needed to improve their business efficiency: since forwarders had to ask hundreds of carriers if they have a container or vice versa, carriers had to inquire whether forwarders need empty containers for their shippers. The economic value here is immense, as it was never that easy to match empty containers with cargo shippers. Moreover, Cargo stream is not a marketplace, but a modern hub for re-using containers for export.

Cargo stream business model is straightforward: it comes with no license fees, subscription requirements, and upfront commitments. The app only takes a fixed rate when business transactions have performed. It is expected that Cargo stream will increase the speed of finding suitable parties for transportation circumstances, expediting service requirements for all parties involved. As existing app users have already claimed, the app is the fastest and easiest way to book a container in the European market.

Go West to take Unaccompanied Freight by Sea

A growing number of haulage companies are shipping goods using unaccompanied trailers. Brittany Ferries says demand is rising, and the ports it serves on the western Channel in France and the UK are best set-up to receive these driverless loads.

“Things like negative Covid tests for drivers are certainly helping drive the trend for unaccompanied loads,” commented Simon Wagstaff Brittany Ferries freight director. “However, there are other financial benefits in going driverless. We know of one large haulage operation in Ireland, for example, that has organised reciprocal arrangements with another in Spain, dropping off and picking up trailers for each other. That’s a cost-effective way of doing business.”

All ferry companies have reported reduced freight volumes in January as a consequence of Brexit fears and stockpiling by companies. However, while volumes are low, Brittany Ferries says the proportion of unaccompanied units is already much higher than in previous years. Galicia is Brittany Ferries’ newest Ro-Pax vessel, operating between Santander in Spain and Portsmouth. Since sailings began in early December, around 40 per cent of Galicia’s freight has been unaccompanied trailers.

Further evidence comes from the workhorse of the Brittany Ferries fleet, Pelican. This freight-only ship has been operating since 2016, connecting Bilbao with Poole. Designed primarily for unaccompanied trailers, Pelican’s fill rates have risen so significantly that it is now the best performing freight ship in the Brittany Ferries fleet. “Of course, Pelican is an extremely versatile vessel which can take out-of-gauge shipments as well as unaccompanied units,” Simon Wagstaff adds. “It’s this flexibility in our fleet, combined with our ability to accommodate unaccompanied loads throughout our extensive route network, that makes Brittany Ferries an attractive prospect for the year ahead. We are pleased too that freight is flowing well through our ports, without the queues that some forecast at the start of the year.”

Brittany Ferries began as a freight-only operation in 1973. The first ship Kerisnel, was a converted Israeli tank-carrier. It had been chartered by French farmers to carry produce like cauliflowers and artichokes to the UK, a market that opened with the country’s entry into the EEC. However, the company quickly adapted. It turned to carrying passenger traffic (as well as freight) when it became clear the biggest export market was for British holiday makers visiting Brittany and then Normandy.

The company still moves quickly when opportunities arise. It opened a sea route connecting Ireland with Spain for the first time in 2018, predominantly for freight traffic. More recently it has brought forward the opening of a Rosslare Cherbourg connection, as Irish, French and Spanish hauliers seek an alternative to the UK land-bridge, with the cost, time and administrative burden that this now brings.

Plans are in progress to open further freight routes, connecting Roscoff and St Malo in Brittany with Ireland. The aim is to finalise schedules as soon as possible and to commence operations in early February using Ro-Pax vessel Armorique. In a normal non-Covid year Brittany Ferries carries around 210,000 freight units. Its twelve ships serve Caen, Cherbourg, Le Havre, Saint-Malo and Roscoff in France, Portsmouth, Poole and Plymouth in the UK, Santander and Bilbao in Spain and Cork & Rosslare in Ireland.

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